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Translation of Pope Francis’ interview with Eugenio Scalfari

I noticed that there wasn’t a full translation of the most recent interview with Pope Francis, and of the translations there are, some are not completely accurate.  So, for those who would like, I started my own translation below.  This is only the first part of the interview, I will try to get to the rest soon. 

Some notes on the text below: The Pope’s words are bolded so as to make it clear who is speaking.  The source text was,

and in order to try to render as faithful a translation as possible, I tried to take the most literal translation of the words wherever it made sense.  That being said, I did adjust some things like sentence order wherever necessary to make the text resemble English as it is spoken.  If you have any questions please let me know. 

for part II please see

Pope Francis Repubblica Interview Part I

“One of my coworkers who knows you told me that you would attempt to convert me.”

“It’s a joke.  My friends think that it’ll be you to want to convert me.”

“Proselytism is a solemn silliness.  It doesn’t make sense.  We must come to know each other, listen to each other, and grow in the knowledge of the world that surrounds us.  To me it happens that after having met someone, I’d like to meet them again because new ideas are born and new needs are discovered.  This is important: meeting each other, listening to each other, and expand our circle of ideas.  The world is full of streets that approach each other and go apart again, but the important thing is that they bring us towards the good.”

“Your Holiness, is there a vision of a single unique ‘Good’? And who decides it?”

“Every one of us has a different idea of Good and of Evil.  We must incite each person to proceed towards that which they think is the Good.”

“Your Holiness, you already wrote in the letter you sent me: Conscience is autonomous, you said, and everyone has to obey their conscience.  I think that is one of the most courageous passages ever written by a Pope.”

“And I’ll repeat it here.  Everyone has an idea of the Good and of Evil, and everyone must choose to follow the Good and fight Evil as they understand it.  This is all it would take to better the world.”

“Is the Church doing this?”

Yes, our missions have this goal: to identify the material and immaterial needs of people and try to satisfy them as best we can.  Do you know what ‘agape’ is?

“Yes, I do.”

“It is the love for others, like our Lord preached it.  It is not proselytism; it is love.  Love for the other man; yeast (poss. Leavening) that serves the common good.”

“Love the other man like yourself.”

“Exactly, it is like this.”

“Jesus in his preaching said that agape, love for others, is the only way to love God.  Correct me if I err.”

“You don’t err.  The Son of God incarnated himself to found in the souls of men the fraternal sentiment.  Everyone brothers, and everyone children of God.  Abba, is how He called the Father.  “I will tread the way,” He would say.  “Follow me and you will find the Father and you will all be His children and He will take delight in you.”  Agape, the love of every man towards every other man, from the nearest to the farthest, is in fact the only mode Jesus indicated to us for finding the way to salvation and of the Beatitudes.”

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